I have posted some detail on the blog before, but it is probably worthwhile revisiting what the options are.
Stereomusik Systems
This company appears to have seen the gap in the market and have produced several components specifically for DJ apps and the audio output limitations of the iDevices. They have an ebay store where you can purchase the goods needed.
What do you need? As mentioned on my previous post, you will definitely need one of these;
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| Stereomusik Systems Audio Split Cable |
Price for this is currently £3.65 from ebay (plus shipping).
Initially I thought that this would be sufficient, I could plug my headphones and a mono to stereo lead into it and get DJing. However, you may have noticed that the space between the 2 female connectors is very small...meaning that both of my leads wont fit. So this is where Stereomusik Systems step in and provide their own custom mono to stereo lead to fit (1.5m);
They also do a 5m cable and a bundle with a whole bunch of their cables and a splitter in a bag.
Prices (excluding shipping) on ebay are currently as follows;
- 1.5m cable = £3.98
- 5m cable = £5.27
- Bundle = £18.59
In order to use the DJ apps split cueing functionality, you need to take the single stereo headphone output from the iDevice and split it into 2 separate MONO channels. This can be done easily by using a 3.5 mm stereo to mono splitter, like this one from Maplins;
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| 3.5mm Stereo Plug to Two 3.5mm Mono Sockets Adaptor |
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| 3.5mm Mono Plug to 3.5mm Stereo Socket Adaptor |
Pricing for the Maplins pieces is as follows;
1 x at £2.24
2 x at £2.09
Total cost = £6.42 (plus shipping)
I've tried both with my iPad feeding into my amp. Of the 2 options, the Stereomusik Systems splitter sounds much better, I'm guessing because there's fewer points to connect. The Maplins alternative did sound crackly and was a little flaky if the adaptors were moved - even slightly.
I'm still feel there is a better solution out there to the audio splitting. Most of my audio connections are gold plated and carry the audio very well...I'm not sure of the quality behind Maplin option. It would be nice to see someone come up with a really rugged, quality audio splitter for this situation (consider it a challenge!).
Ideally Apple would open up the use of the connection point at the base of the iPad and allow CoreAudio to deal with 2 separate stereo channels - one via headphone socket and one via the base connection - via the Camera connection kit maybe to give a USB audio out? Or maybe even a 30-pin connector to stereo cable output? One can but dream. However with this ultimate solution comes its downfalls...your iPad could easily run out of power whilst DJing since you can no longer charge it if you're taking audio out from the main connection point.




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Nice one, some good info there thank you :)
A suggestion for a "reasonably simple" dual stereo output hardware device (without using an iPhone):
A small hardware plugin device (like the Spanish mono-audio-splitter) with a tiny built-in Bluetooth receiver to deliver the monitor mix to a stereo headphone jack, as well as the straight-out stereo main audio stream. Zero to very-low latency would be vital, of course, though the DJ softwares would have to be fine-tuned on that front as well.
Just a thought...
They can make a charging connector with stero out, plus the headphone out that would solve the stereo issue. Easy like that....
I am quite amazed that noone has come up with the idea to put in a stereo-to-2x-stereo splitter before the stereo-to-mono-to-2x-stereo splitter cable (Griffin and co.) as a stereo pass-through. It certainly makes things a bit messier and you have to figure out how to join the stereo from the pass-through and the downmixed stereo from the mono-splitter on the other end, but it gives you the ultimate flexibility - when you need pre-cue then you turn on the corresponding option in your app and use the outputs from the mono-splitter (and suffering the downmixing for the time being), and when you need full stereo then you turn off the pre-cue option and use the stereo pass-through output. That way everyone gets what they want with a little compromise when pre-cue is needed. Of course I'd rather have a truly all-in-one solution for this, preferably with a smart cable that can be controlled by the app to switch seamlessly between the pass-through and the downmixed output and bring less of a mess along the way, but for the time being putting a stereo splitter cable on both ends of the mono splitter cable does the job for those who absolutely need true stereo. I'd expect Numark's iDJ would have figured that one out, but from what I've heard apparently not.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-External-3D-7-1-Channel-Audio-PC-Sound-Card-Adapter-/200673605777?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_SoundCards&hash=item2eb9143891
This might be a solution. It's a very cheap external soundcard. I've not tried it yet but there's a few of these on the market and although they're cheap, they've got to be better than the soundcard in an iPad, i would think.
useful info. thanks dude
Hello fellow DJs, you don't need to compromise for mono when pre-cueing with headphones on iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad anymore. The all new DJ Mixer 6.0 has full stereo headphones monitoring using any wired headphones, HDMI or a USB Audio Interface. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dj-mixer/id331150638?mt=8 Happy mixing!
As an alternative to the griffin cable on djay for ipad, I had a 3.5mm to 2×3.5mm stero to stereo splitter. Obviously I could not get this to cue, until I realised a simple workaround: by pulling my headphone jack out slightly, I could pick up the split (cue) channel in my headphone, while having the other 3.5mm plug (fully inserted) playing the mix to the stereo. Saved $40 on a cable I did not need. Trick is to pull the headphone plug out about halfway. Don’t ask me how this works!
http://www.algoriddim.com/djay-ipad/accessories/dj-cable
Hope this answers all your problems
Although the iPad now has multiroute audio in iOS6, seem very little info on how to take advantage of it! Eg what's the cheapest/simplest way to get stereo pre-cueing using djay? Using the camera connection kit and use sound card may work, but does not seem very robust. An upgraded alesis io dock would be VERY attractive, but no sign of it. Anyone got any info/thoughts?
Just found Bluetooth head set for ipad so why not cue with headset and then leave jack for stereo output!?
My company (Extrasensory Devices) makes a dongle-based splitter which does the same thing, while preserving the mic input functionality.
www.amazon.com/shops/esdevices
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That way it becomes more important for you to join the iPad forums. After joining a forum it becomes a lot easier to buy the best available iPad accessories by visiting the online store of such forums.
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